Mt Sinai - Egypt

Mount Sinai (Arabic: طور سيناء , Hebrew: הר סיני), also known as Mount Horeb, Mount Musa, Gebel Musa or Jabal Musa ("Moses' Mountain") by the Bedouin, is the name of a mountain in the Sinai Peninsula. For information about the location of the Biblical Mount Sinai, see the corresponding article.// GeographyMount Sinai is a 2,285 meters high mountain in the Sinai Peninsula. It is next to Mount St. Catherine (the tallest peak in the Sinai),, at 2,637 meters high the highest in the Sinai peninsula. It is surrounded on all sides by higher peaks of the mountain range. MonasteryThe Mon

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lifesaverkid :

I'll be in Alexandria and Cairo in October and thought it might be nice to take a trip to see and climb Mt. Sinai. Can anyone suggest a tour company for this short trip -- and provide a link to their website if known? Thanks! Thank you for responding Mr T and Hop Hop. Mr T: Would I take a tour bus or a government bus from Cairo to Dahab? Once in Dahab, would you suggest a tour operator I should look for? Hop Hop: My preference is to take a bus from Alexandria or Cairo, climb Mt. Sinai at night, watch the sunrise, climb down, and return to Alexandria or Cairo. Thanks! M

Beck :
"lol again @ livnat are u gonna copy paste that answer on every question? heheh can i ask what u wish to accomplish by this? just curious"
Mr T :
"best thing is to get to dahab and do the trip from there, well worth doing sunrise is fantastic, make sure you take a blanket with you it gets mighty cold up there, they rent blankets at the summit but at extortionate prices. bus turminal is by the train station in cairo to sharm & dahab. but best fly to sharms. Tour operator in luxor."
Hophop :
"i guess you better contact us back cause there are some option could be avaliable at the moment, like sunrise, or sunsight or 1 night above the mountain. wish u a nice trip."
DAP :
"After living here for several years, I can recommend the following site: They are located in Maadi. Lots of folks here have used them for our family trips to Lexor, Nile Cruises and for local tours in Cairo and Alexandria. A good group, familiar with foreign travelers and very helpful. They get better airline pricing then Thomas Cook on international travel also. Enjoy"
Wise Heart :
"I will not suggest names. You can find easily a good company doing that trip. You planned right but you should visit the monastery when you come down. Check for the opening time it's usually from 9 AM to 12 PM, not everyday. St Catherine is amazing and small like a village. Don't miss to visit the monastery."
GodShew :

My web page on Real Location of mount Sinai: has been scrutinized, as requested. (scrutiny & my reply posted at bottom) What are your thoughts on Mt Sinai? Three Options: Pick ONE only of 3: 1. Traditional Site: Sinai Peninsula 2. Har Karkom, Mt Karkom in Egypt 3. Jebel el Lawz, in Saudi Arabia

One hot momma® :
"I think it's a big mountain."
xxlive.laughxx :
"I beleive it"
RB :
"I know it exists, and have read about it. But I don't for sure remember where it is."
Adam's Rib :
"It is between Egypt and Arabia, north of the red sea on the point of the land called Edom."
inat :
"There are a few other possible locations for Mount Sinai, and this one seems the most credible, as it fits with the biblical account:"
Fuzzy :
"Perhaps we will be shown before the end? At the moment, it seems that some discoveries (?) have put some doubt on what used to be the accepted mountain. Some seem to believe that there is evidence (remains to be seen) for it being in Saudi Arabia, was it?"
Weberly :
"I read a book entitled: The Gold of Exodus: The Discovery of the True Mt. Sinai by Howard Blum, Lynn Nesbit, Fred Hills. It is a true story of two men who set out to find it. Hope this helps. It was an exciting and informative read!"
Let there be JIMBO :

I saw a special on Mt Sinai last night on PBS and I thought about that... if nobody could read yet then why were they written? Atheists... just please hold back your smug comments aiight!

Eye of Sauron :
"It was in hieroglyphs."
idahomike2 :
"Yes"
Ronin :
"Well, the scholars think that the vast majority of people were illiterate, but writing existed in the world at that time (Egypt at least), so scribes prob existed in the area at the time."
Just_askin :
"Aramaic or Hebrew possibly?"
Michael R :
"There were written languages then already. However, that doesn't even matter. If G-d wants to be heard - he will be."
needforspeed411 :
"There might have been the written language of Cunieform at that time, which was developed by the Phoenicians, who are regarded as being the first to develop any writing system. Cunieform was written with triangle based shapes, made with a pointed stick, pressed into clay and allowed to dry to preserve the writing."
oldguy63 :
"I think the story itself is an clear indication that they had language. How would they have written the 10 commandments? There are historical writings that predate Moses time."
asker :
"10 Commandments were in english"
gowthecow :
"historians think most people were illiterate back then but it was written with gods hand and anything God wrote Moses could probably read"
Paul H :
"The Jews are called "the people of the book" for a reason. They had the Talmud and the Torah. The Hebrew language has been around for thousands of years, so yes, it is possible, although this story may be allegorical for all we know."
nexusmoon :
"3,000 bc was the first recorded text. Do you know what it was? No it wasnt the bible or koran but it was religious. There was written text for moses how literate the average person was is a different story."
fireball226 :
"It doesnt matter cuz Moses was there to explain and teach them."
science_geekmckinley :
"there is proof that the Hebrews and others could write at that time."
icthyus05 :
"A few years ago there was this big hoopla about "How could Moses write the Pentateuch there was not writing back then... and so on." Until archeologist found writing that predated Moses. So there was writing back then."
snuggels102 :
"There has always been symbols that mean things since the beginning of time. Over time, different languages or symbols came and took over the old ones, like Latin English and most other languages comes from a derivative of Latin"
chapelite_av :
"Moses was commanded by God to write down the history of the battle between the Israelites and Amalekites, while on their desert journey. Jesus Himself agreed that Moses also wrote the first five books of the Old Testament. "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me." (Luke 24:44) Many will say that writing hadn't yet been invented by the time of Moses, so that couldn't possibly have happened. This is a bunch of hooey. Writing has been discovered (depending on which you believe to be first) in Egypt, circa 3300-3400 B.C., or in the Euphrates/Tigris regions around 3200-3300 B.C. Moses didn't arrive on the scene until well into the 14th century B.C. Hope that helps!"
Brian :
"Yes, but I thought it was 15, then he broke 5.....didn't you see the movie?"
sickblade :
"There have been lots of archaeological finds that have uncovered fragments of Proto-Hebraic writings. So it's safe to assume that writing was developed by that time, though certainly not common."
arch angel :
"Yes ,developed writing was present before the rise of Egypt"
boxer :
"When was this Ten Commandments actually written. It would seem that most of the Mosaic law was copied from the Hammurabi Code. The written language was well established before the time of Moses. The Egyptians were using Hieroglyphs both as a symbolic language and as a phonetic script. The Greeks had written languages and so did the Mesopotamians."
dewcoons :
"Lets see, there are the Egypt hieroglyphics which predate the Commandments, and would have been known to Moses since he was educated in Egypt. They are a written language, just with a different grammar then we use today. The Code of Hammurabi is written and predates Moses. Would also have been known to him. There are the Samarian Tablets which predate the Exodus by 400-500 years, and would have been known to the Hebrews, who lived in the area at that same time. There are many other examples of writing that predate the time of Moses, but these are ones that would have been explicitly know to the Jews."
Agrippina :
"I don't know when Moses was supposed to have brought down the tablets but written language has existed for an estimated 5-6,000 years. The first written language is supposedly from Mesopotamia (I think). The oldest writings were used for accounting, inventorying, etc. The Jews that followed Moses may have been illiterate but that doesn't mean the writing system hadn't been invented yet. I would imagine the tablets could have been written in Egyptian heiroglyphics, Hebrew, perhaps Aramaic or possibly even Greek but of course we don't have them so we don't know for sure."
derstrudelmonkey :
"Well, I guess I'll put my atheist butt on the line when I say that though a written language had yet to be devised by the Egyptians, the Jews had their own form of pictographic language, let's see, I think they called it Hebrew. Have you considered that all written language (and language in general ) is symbolic at best in it's purest form. So who's really to say ?"

 

Comments on Mt Sinai

Dark12
Date: 2008-02-05 17:06:51

the FDA claims ignorance of phthalates, and has no plans to begin testing without first consulting with their corporate overlords. The FDA would prefer if "data would emerge" proffered from the Lady In the Lake, or from Mount Sinai, or somewhere mythical. The FDA is too busy to conduct any studies on their own.


denverrusell
Date: 2008-02-05 17:06:51

Neturei Karta, an international society representing non-Zionist Orthodox Jews, has blasted recent remarks by Yoni Metzger, Israel’s Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi, in which the rabbi called for the deportation of the people of Gaza to the Egyptian Sinai desert. “Yona Metger is not an authentic rabbi" despite his title.


Deddy
Date: 2008-02-05 17:06:51

How's this for a BBC headline?Rare suicide bombing hits IsraelForeign-trained terrorists and their deadly toys freely passed into Gaza, and now Palestinian bombers have entered Israel from Sinai. "Rare" minimizes what may be the first of what one what Fatah source called "a year of suicide attacks."Rare? Think again.UPDATE Feb 4: The


depio
Date: 2008-02-05 17:06:51

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