Algiers - Algeria

Algiers (Arabic: الجزائر‎, Standard Arabic: Al Jaza'ir IPA: , Algerian Arabic: Dzayer ( (From Berber pronunciation), Berber: , Ledzayer , French: Alger ) is the capital and largest city of Algeria, and the second largest city in the Maghreb (behind Casablanca). According to the 2005 census, the population of the city proper was 1,519,570; for the urban area was 2,135,630; for the metropolitan area 3,518,083; and for Algiers Province as a whole 5,723,749 (2006). Thus the urban area of Greater Algiers is one of the largest in North AfricaNicknamed El-Bahdja (البهجة) or Alger la B

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imraybarbonifrommiami :

In the movie "Algiers" by John Cromwell, it talks about the native quarter or "casbah". My question is, was the native quarter in algiers really like that? Is it still the same? Is the Algiers native quarter really called the Casbah?

kha_2000 :
"I didn't see the movie but the casbah is the old algiers, the oldest quarter in algiers, and its architecture and streets are special. It's one of the finest coastal sites on the Mediterranean, it's a part of UNESCO human heritage. The Casbah contains the remains of the citadel, old mosques and Ottoman-style palaces as well as the vestiges of a traditional urban structure associated with a deep-rooted sense of community."
Dan T :

Do you think the Battle of Algiers was a lesson about terroism or about a history of triumph of freedom fighters, or maybe both? Explain...

Jeffrey S :
"I'm not sure whether you're talking about the actual battle, or the famous French movie of the same name, but I suppose it really doesn't matter. Terrorism was certainly used to great effect by the Algerian rebels, the FLN, both in demonstrating their ability to strike at will, right under the noses of the French, and in provoking the French to take more repressive measures to try to quell the insurgency. As we see in the movie, and in the actual battle, that is exactly what the French did. Using elite paratroops, and the police, the French engaged in widespread torture, aerial bombing of crowded neighborhoods, and lockdowns of whole neighborhoods, among other brutal tactics. Although the French were successful in breaking the general strike that had been called in support of the FLN, and in systematically destroying the command structure of the FLN, the brutal methods they used elicited much criticism from the world community, and created much doubt among the French themselves as to the correctness of their role in Algeria. Ultimately, the French won the battle but lost the war. I have heard that "The Battle of Algiers," the movie, was making the rounds of the Bush administration a while back, apparently because it was seen as a demonstration that a systematic approach can quell an insurgency. If that is true, then then Bush and Co. have completely missed the point of the movie. The point of the movie, although it is indirectly conveyed, and the lesson of history, is that once an insurgency gets started, if it has the support of the general population, there really is no putting it down. The more the occupying power tries to suppress it, the more it grows, and even if it seems to subside temporarily, it can flare up again in a moment. A couple of years ago I was watching CSPAN where some generals were testifying before Congress as to the progress in Iraq. One general made the point that, if one looks at the history of insurgencies in the 20th Century, the average length was about twelve years. But it was what he didn't say that was important, and that is that in most of those cases, after the twelve years, it was the insurgents who had succeeded. Certainly there have been cases where insurgencies were put down, such as the British did in Malaysia and the Americans did in the Philippines, but those were very special cases. In most cases, if an insurgency reaches the third stage, that is, where it becomes organized and the insurgents are able to stand and fight, when the occasion is right, and if it is supported by the general population, it is virtually impossible to put down. And in even attempting to do so, the cost in national treasure and international reputation for the occupying power, and the cost in human life in general, becomes prohibitive."
Sally S :

What is it like for Americans who live in Algiers? Housing availability, transportation, etc? May be going there in the next several months, so would like to have an idea of what life is like there. Thanks

jbw4132 :
"I lived there when I was young. I would contact the US Embassy to get better answers. If you get sick ask for Nurse Ann. I think she still works there."

 

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abiz181
Date: 2008-02-03 13:19:48

A car bomb attack on a police station killed two people and wounded 23 in a town east of Algiers on Tuesday, the second such bombing in the OPEC member in a month, the interior ministry said.


Battleweb
Date: 2008-02-03 13:19:48

(ANSAmed) - ALGIERS, JANUARY 24 - Despite the fact that cats are the only pure animals for Islam allowed even in mosques, the number of cats captured in the streets of Algiers in 2007 and then killed remains very high: some 16,000. Thirteen teams were sent by Hurbal, the public hygiene body,


coderbari
Date: 2008-02-03 13:19:48

ALGIERS, Algeria: Islamic insurgents killed three youths gathering chestnuts in a forest south of Algiers, triggering a search by soldiers for the culprits, the Interior Ministry said Sunday.


bhushna22
Date: 2008-02-03 13:19:48

Not unlike their intrepid brethren who attacked and murdered Christmas Eve picnickers in Mauritania. "Islamists in Algeria kill three youths gathering chestnuts," from the Associated Press: ALGIERS, Algeria (AP) -




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